What Makes a Guest Great? Tips from Talk Show Pros
by
Roberta Gale
Roberta is a professional media coach and a former nationally-syndicated talk
show host. Consult her web site for further information:
www.robertagale.com.
This article appeared in the January 2004 Newsletter of the
Publishers Marketing Association, and is posted here with permission from
Roberta.
If you’re interested in promoting a book on radio or TV shows, you’ve probably
watched or listened to hundreds, if not thousands, of interviews over the course
of your life. But how many of those interviews truly stand out? If you’re lucky,
perhaps a handful. If you’re very lucky, perhaps a larger handful. The point is,
a great interview doesn’t happen often, and it rarely happens by accident.
In an attempt to help attain that interview nirvana a bit more often, I asked
top talent and producers to share their thoughts on guests they considered the
cream of the crop. My interviewees covered a broad spectrum, from hot talk to
conservative talk to women’s talk to sports talk to talk-intensive music morning
shows. Obviously, the individual hosts and producers as well as the target
demographics of the programs and stations determine some of the answers. But, as
you will see, some basic qualities of a great guest transcend format and
individual differences.
My questions were:
· What are the qualities of a great guest?
· Could you give specific examples of guests you thought were great,
whether or not they are well known?
· If you could give one tip to a guest who was going to appear on your
show, what would it be?
• A great guest has energy and an interesting topic, is conversational, and says
either very intelligent or very stupid things. I tell my guests to crank up the
energy. Make it sound like it’s the first time you’re talking about the subject,
and be enthused.–Ronn Owens, host, KGO, San Francisco
• Great guests don’t have preconceived ideas of where the conversation is going
to go. They trust the host knows to give out the Web site and the book’s name.
They don’t try so hard. They follow the host’s lead and just let go. Baseball
Hall of Fame announcer Ernie Harwell was a great guest because he was
comfortable with himself. My guest tip: Don’t have your guard up. Accept that
even a less-than-stellar interview as a real person will be far more memorable
than one as a polished, slick "guest."–Jeff Deminski, host, Live 97.1 FM,
Detroit
• A great guest is upbeat, passionate, and real about whatever they are on the
show to discuss. Some people forget that they are on the air, so they just talk,
without any feeling. They drone on. Many authors forget that their on-air
performance should be as interesting as the prose they create. My advice to
guests is to listen–both to the interviewer and to the callers. Unfortunately,
some guests are so intent on cramming in all the knowledge they possess on a
given subject, and/or are so busy plugging their book, that they don’t listen.
The audience will pick up a guest’s self-absorption quicker than I can give the
station ID.–Hilarie Barsky, host, CFUN, Vancouver, B.C.
• A great guest has passion, convictions, and a touch of a chip on the shoulder.
Any two of the three will make you a pretty good guest. Civil rights leader
James Farmer was great, although, as he entered the studio, I thought, "Wow--is
this old guy worn out!" But while he was physically infirm, his mind and voice
were sound, and he took Americans on a journey now known only to elderly blacks:
It was chillingly compelling. My tip for guests is to give direct answers. You
can elaborate if you wish, but at least say something that approximates an
answer to my question.–Jim Bohannon, host, Westwood One Radio, Washington, D.C.
• We are in the conversation business, and the guest advances the process the
same way a witness does in a trial. The key to being great guest is boiling
material down to terms where listeners can agree or disagree. I like guests who
will disagree with me but allow for areas where we agree. Think of the interview
as a conversation, but an animated one. Get your energy level up!–Dom Giordano,
host, WPHT, Philadelphia
• A great guest is someone who speaks in sound bites but is happy to embellish
if asked. Sadly, many authors are bad talkers. Tom Bergeron, host of Hollywood
Squares, is an awesome guest. He’s not famous, but he is funny and he plays
along. If we’re talking about Polish sausage on the show for some reason, he
will have five minutes of Polish sausage stories, and he can still creatively
sell his show without it sounding like a commercial.–John Scott, producer, STAR
101.3 FM, San Francisco
• My favorite interview, and one of the toughest, was the late Charles Schulz,
the author of "Peanuts." I had him on a talk show one night during a baseball
strike to discuss Charlie Brown’s team, since they weren’t on strike. He was ultrashy and couldn’t believe the topic. However, he knew that I was prepared
and that I was a fan, and he began to trust the premise. I can still hear him
laughing at the thought of Charlie Brown’s team not striking.
On television, the best guest is somebody who is not afraid of the camera and
who embraces it. I can think of a few NHL players, like Jeremy Roenick, who
steal the camera, and that’s fine with me. My advice for someone I’m going to
interview is to have fun and enjoy the ride.–Todd Walsh, host, Fox Sports Net
Arizona, KDKB-FM, Phoenix
• Have some energy!!!! There is a zero-tolerance policy on boring guests on our
show, I don’t care who they are. If one slips in, we’ll hang up. Most two-bit
activists are great guests because they know what they want to say and have a
strong passion for it. Advice for guests? Get to the point. Don’t filibuster.
Don’t go off on tangents. Answer the question. Don’t play the game of ignoring
the question so you can stay on message. We’ll point it out, embarrass you, and
then hang up.–John Kobylt, host, KFI, Los Angeles
• First off, a guest needs to get it–that is, a guest needs to realize that
radio is an intimate, one-on-one medium. You’re not standing at a podium talking
to an assembled audience. You’re talking to a host, and being listened to by one
audience member at a time. Guests need to listen too, to figure out what the
host needs from them. Guests also need to realize that talk radio is
entertainment. That doesn’t mean that they need to be something they are not.
But if they aren’t entertaining, the host isn’t going to want to have them on
very long, won’t have them back again, and won’t recommend them to others in the
industry.
One guest who stands out on our station is a local attorney by the name of Joe
Friedberg. He understands that a host wants smart and honest answers, little or
no spin, natural, entertaining conversation, a sense of humor, and a wonderful
ability to explain the complex in entertaining, understandable terms. Ann
Coulter also comes to mind. She might not always pass muster on the spin
criterion, but she is entertaining, strong in her convictions, and good at
explaining her points without sounding like a boring college professor.–Joe
O’Brien, program director/host, KSTP, Minneapolis/St. Paul
• I treat guests the same way I treat callers to my show. That is, the guest and
I engage in a conversation for the purpose of informing and entertaining the
audience with pacing and content sufficiently strong to stimulate further
callers and development of the topic(s). Whether it has been John Lott on gun
control or Arnold Schwarzenegger on running for governor, guests (just like
callers) last only so long on the air as they continue to stimulate me through
interesting information provided in an entertaining way.–Roger Hedgecock, host,
KOGO, San Diego
I hope you found the words of these professionals helpful. Use them as a guide
to help you tackle an interview or understand why a particular interview did or
didn’t go as planned. My own advice on being a great guest? Trust your
instincts; never forget who’s listening, and do everything you can to make the
interview entertaining.
Roberta Gale has appeared on the radio in every part of the country during the
past 22 years. Her programs have aired nationally on Westwood One radio Networks
and ABC Talk Radio Network. President of Roberta Gale Media Coaching, which
provides media training to authors, experts, spokespeople, and businesses, she
can be reached via www.robertagale.com. A version of this article also appeared
in Talkers magazine.